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[Andrew Murphy]

On 18/01/07, Phil Schaffner <Philip.R.Schaffner at nasa.gov> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 09:27 -0600, Jeremy White wrote:
> > > Missed the 2nd one.  Running with selinux=disabled already, but modified
> > > grub as suggested.  Ran "tune2fs -O ^dir_index  /dev/hda8" (the /home
> > > filesystem).
> >
> > You may want to recheck that; the file system in fc6 by default
> > is now set to a funky /Vol/Group/Whatis/thing.
> >
> > Doing my /dev/hdaX didn't do it for me; I had to do the funky one.
>
> Nope - I bypassed LVM2 at install time and did my own partitioning due
> to past problems dealing with funky LVM filesystems.
>
> > You'll know you've succeeded if/when an
> >   ls -f
> > returns . and .. as the first two entries.
>
> It does.
>
> > > No.  Work-around for me was to boot the machine under CentOS 4.4 which
> > > is also installed, install CrossOver 6, IE6, and Office 2000, and reboot
> > > to Fedora Core 6.  (Seems to be working MUCH better than the earlier
> > > kludge of trying to restore an earlier CrossOver install and upgrading
> > > which messed up menus and associations badly.)  Not an option for
> > > everyone.  Hope you can fix this.
> >
> > Fedora Core is deeply frustrating; we may have to move it into
> > the same category as Gentoo - unsupportable.
>
> Would be sorry to see that - Fedora is still very popular, but then so
> is Gentoo, for very different reasons IMHO.
>
> > We worked with FC through the fall, and it was quite maddening.
> >
> > One day it worked, another day a glibc bug broke everything,
> > another day we got a kernel version that kernel paniced
> > the box on boot (had to revert).
> >
> > I think a real problem is that there isn't a single 'FC6' - instead,
> > there is 'FC6 updated as of this exact moment in time'.
>
> Fedora is a "rolling-beta" distro - I sympathize with your support
> issues with it - but it is still a fun OS for those who want to surf the
> leading edge of the Linux wave.
>
> > I know
> > that on an FC6 box updated as of December 1, 2006, all of our
> > supported applications install and function, so long as you
> > use the workarounds we provide (actually, only the tune2fs and
> > audit workarounds are known to be required, but turning off selinux
> > is almost always a good thing to try as well).
>
> Agree - I have gotten into the habit of disabling it at install time and
> counting on two levels of firewalls (organizational and local), keeping
> current with security patches, and other security measures (such as
> solid passwords and disabling unnecessary services) for end-user
> machines.  Still use it on servers.
>
> > So I, too, hope that it works.  However, until the Fedora engineers
> > give a *bleep* about maintaining compatiblity with Wine,
> > I'm afraid there isn't much hope.  Frankly, a lot of that is simply
> > the bleeding edge nature of Fedora Core; I'd honestly recommend
> > something like CentOS for any sort of production use.
>
> Agree++.  Only running FC6 on this machine because the the RHEL4/CentOS4
> Evolution version is seriously buggy.  Hoping for CentOS5 Beta - with
> much of the good stuff from FC6 - any day now.  Will be trying out
> CrossOver on it when it hits the street.
>
> > With all that said, it's worth doing a full update as well,
> > and trying again; what we found through the fall was that there
> > was always a bug fix waiting in the wings (the trick was to get
> > the bug fix, but not get the next bug :-(  ).
>
> I'm perennially up-2-date but will try reinstalling CrossOver 6 and
> Office 2000 on a dummy account again if any applicable new updates come
> through the channel.  Meanwhile my dual-boot workaround has me back to
> work.
>
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeremy
>
> Cheers and thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
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