[cw-discuss] Miserable 6.0 experience...

Fri Feb 16 07:45:38 CST 2007

I second this sentiment. I, along with many people, don't use Word because
of choice but because it is the only thing my superiors know how to use, and
they can't be bothered to learn a new system. Also, most people do not know
how to use any wordprocessor the right way and many very short and simple
documents I run into are actually very complicated because people are using
stopgap measures to format their document as a common practice, and those
don't translate well to OO. Also, openoffice like Word has no good way of
managing bibliographies which necessitates the use of thrid party apps that
usually only work with Word.

For my part I have CO 6.0 with MS Office XP SP3, EndNote, and MathType
working very well on a AMD64 Gentoo system, so good work on that. I have
never been able to get MS Office 2003 to install correctly, but that's ok. I
would like to see an option in the CO installer to install the fullfile SP3
for Office XP though.

Andrew Lock

On 2/16/07, Olaf Frączyk <olaf at cbk.poznan.pl> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 1. Because if you use it in company, you need to be sure that the
> document you have received from your customer really looks the same.
> Consider an agreement with a lost paragraph or 2. After you think you
> have all your negotiations finished you find out that the conversion
> missed something important.
> 2. I'm often forced to use complicated documents - sereral hundred pages
> with graphics and embedded objects (mainly visio). And it is not my
> choice - if my customer uses MS Word - I need to use it too.
> 3. Have you compared memory usage and startup time? Whatever you can say
> - MS Word is faster on Linux that OO.
> 4. I don't know if OLE works for OO in Linux. But even if it works, it
> is limited to OO only.
> 5. I personally prefer Word over OO. It just looks nicer for me :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Olaf
> On Fri, 2007-02-16 at 10:47 +0000, Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
> > What I cannot for the life of me understand is why Linux users are
> > bothering trying to use M$ Word on their Linux installations. Why not
> > Open Office? The only thing I have found out to be "better" in the M$
> > Office are Excel and PowerPoint.
> >
> > M$ Word IS GENUINE JUNK and has been proven so by all too many. Basta.
> > My experience of M$ Word in publishing has at times been disastrous.
> >
> > If you are doing something really serous, you have Adobe FrameMaker
> > and the old-fashioned TeX/LaTex.
> >
> > With OOo you can save your work in M$ Word format and not loose a
> > thing, unless you are doing some very complex job.
> >
> > This, at least is my experience.
> >
> > Bodvar
> >
> > On 2/16/07, Sid Boyce <sboyce at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Jeremy White wrote:
> > > > Actually, I've been educated on this; there appears to be a known
> > > > issue and fix that seems to work for SuSE 10.2.
> > > >
> > > > So, definitely get a ticket in, and 6.1 will definitely fix this
> issue.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy
> > > >
> > > I only have Office 97 and it's OK with 10.2 and 10.3Alpha1, so I don't
> > > know if it's an issue with Office 2003.
> > > Regards
> > > Sid.
> > >
> > > > Jeremy White wrote:
> > > >> Hi Derek,
> > > >>
> > > >> 10.2 came out after we'd frozen our test platforms, so we didn't
> > > >> test against it at all.
> > > >>
> > > >> And you're not the first person to report odd troubles like this.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm not sure if we've solved this yet, or not; either way, it owuld
> > > >> really help if you could submit a ticket on it.
> > > >>
> > > >> (Standard suggestions are to investigate your ulimits and to
> > > >> make sure that AppArmor is configured to allow wine to run).
> > > >>
> > > >> Cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeremy
> > > >>
> > > >> Derek Fountain wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I bought Crossover 6.0 a week or so back after a good experience
> with
> > > >>> 3.0 Pro a long time back. Not going well...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Installation was OK on my SUSE-10.2 single CPU machine. I only
> need Word
> > > >>> and Excel from Office 2003, so I stuck that disk in and ran a
> customised
> > > >>> install. The installation hung up three quarters of the way in.
> Some
> > > >>> Wine process was using 100% of the CPU. I left it for 30 mins, but
> it
> > > >>> clearly wasn't going to come back. I spent the next few minutes
> killing
> > > >>> wine processes, and eventually rebooted to get rid of the zombies.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I only need Office 2000 really, so I dug out that CD and started
> again,
> > > >>> and this time it succeeded. But now Excel is proving unreliable.
> It's
> > > >>> hung up in the same way twice this afternoon - some wine process
> taking
> > > >>> 100% of the CPU and nothing happening in the application.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I wiped everything in sight and went back to Crossover 3.0 Pro.
> It's
> > > >>> only been an hour but that's been OK so far.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Is this a known problem, or is anyone else seeing it? I've not
> been able
> > > >>> to reproduce it reliably (and I need the machine for work, rather
> than
> > > >>> as a test box, so I'm not keen to reproduce it either!)
> > > >>>
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> > >
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